monthly-ish look at SL private sim loss


it’s been six weeks since my last morbid SL private sim loss post – Second Life’s slow downward march

Maria at Hypergrid Business does her once a month look at OpenSim growth and i seem do the once a month (or so) look at SL’s decline

i guess you can tell who is the half-full type of person and who is half-empty! (i blame my pessimism on being an oppressed french canadian – but at least we have poutine going for us as consolation for our biggest holiday being about the beheading of St. John the Baptist – i swear, i’m not making this stuff up!) o_O

nothing much has changed with Second Life’s private sim loss, the average over nearly three years holds at about 5 per day . . .

maybe Second Life should adopt the Quebec license plate motto of Je me souviens, which means we remember the glory days! =p




Je me souviens indeed! on my freebie spaceship! =p

spaceship in my Kitely store or online

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written by Ener Hax

October 18th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

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  1. The loss in SL and the growth of OS are not the same thing, so it is good to see stats on both.

    The reason that they are not the same is because the loss of user of SL does not always mean that they are switching over to OS. Also, the growth in OS is not only from users leaving SL. And, there are users that use both.

    Also, the loss in SL can be seen as a lesson of what not to do for OS, so although it is bad for SL (as they keep doing things that increase their loss rate), it is actually a good thing for OS as its users as they can learn from the mistakes that SL makes.


    19 Oct 13 at 6:32 am

  2. great perspective Paul!

    my wild guess is that maybe 20% of people leaving SL come to OpenSim like my long time friends Sunny and DreamWalker

    my own purpose has changed drastically – SL was a freelance hobby trying to make money and was very social. OpenSim is purely educational for me now

    “learning from mistakes” is indeed something we can do and, so far, grids like InWorldz and Third Rock seem to be doing exactly that

    Ener Hax

    19 Oct 13 at 10:29 am

  3. The downward trend in Second Life started in May 2010. It was a direct result of Linden Lab’s massive TOS change on 30 April 2010.

    In that TOS change, LL unilaterally decided that they would “lock in” and “capture” all Public Domain and free content that thousands of creators had released throughout Second Life. Many predicted that it would be SL’s downfall, and indeed it was the beginning of the end.

    SL was growing rapidly up to that point. After that, there was no way for them to recover, and it has been declining ever since. Now, in September 2013 they jammed through a new TOS change that is even more draconian. More long-time users are selling off or closing their sims in SL. More content creators are stopping upload of new products.

    Lani Global

    19 Oct 13 at 6:25 pm

  4. i remember the huge uproar from that TOS even though i was pretty much out of SL by March of 2010 (for me the openspace dealio did me in with my estate dreams)

    i remember big name creators pulling out but since i had stopped visiting SL all together, i couldn’t appreciate the effect that had (or would have)

    other people have shared a similar perspective to yours Lani, but hearing you state it so well and with so much time having passed, i agree that the TOS change was one of the biggest factors to this steady decline

    with the new TOS (bonus points for saying draconian) it will be interesting to see if the decline accelerates or stays steady

    i know that my long time friend Sunny has pretty much pulled completely out of SL due to this latest TOS change . . .

    thanks Lani! =)

    update: oct. 20th – 19525 private sims! down 56 from the numbers in this post!

    Ener Hax

    21 Oct 13 at 7:33 am

  5. grid surveys sim total now 19502… 27 oct.
    so what do we do now? start bailing out the ship?
    (the rats left long ago lol)

    chris haylerson

    27 Oct 13 at 11:57 pm

  6. run screaming in circles with your hands in the air

    that always works for me =)

    Ener Hax

    29 Oct 13 at 8:26 am

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