Kitely is kicking serious butt


while i won’t be using Kitely any time soon i do think they have a great offering. i won’t use it because i am a french canadian elitist and snob (or maybe because i am not a real person and am anti-facebook after they dumped me last year – hell hath no fury like an Ener scorned, or is that a furry? a scorned furry sounds dangerous) =p

Kitely is breaking the mold with their facebook login and making OpenSim more widely available and offering it up in a way that makes a ton of sense – on a cloud. but that’s old news already and i wanted to give them another shout out for being bold and giving people what they want – the latest and greatest!

Kitely is now running OpenSim 0.7.1 and Imprudence 1.3.2

Kudos to you at Kitely for the good sense to offer the best there is. not everyone does and that can affect the most demanding of us (like me). for example, our former host is still on 0.6.9! we’ve been on the 0.7.1 dev branch for six months and while it’s not the full release, it is leaps and bounds above 0.6.9!

perhaps being on the cloud allows Kitely to deploy new versions more easily but when you are a paying customer, it’s nice to know you have the latest and greatest for your hard earned money (i prefer today’s donut, not yesterday’s) =D

speaking of earning money, i hope the Kitely guys start charging soon so that they stick around because i think they have proven that their system works. i may not be using them now or next month, but i can see some possible uses down the road for us with Enclave Harbour!

keep up the good work Kitely! =)


awww - making a kite for Kitely! *i am such a sap* =)

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written by Ener Hax

May 23rd, 2011 at 6:16 am

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  1. They’ve also doubled the number of free credits they’re giving out… they used to do 500 a week, and now they’re up to 1,000 — that’s 1,000 user minutes a week, or more than 16 hours.

    So you can work on your own region for 16 hours, I guess, or have 16 people in-world for an hour… they have GOT to get the payment system working! LOL

    Maria Korolov

    23 May 11 at 6:26 am

  2. I am glad to learn Kitely has upgraded to 7.1 which will help ensure they are at the cutting edge and not lagging behind. I really would like to go back and do something there but, as yet, no alternative login for avatar names. Hopefully, that is not far off and I am sure it would boost take up.


    23 May 11 at 6:43 am

  3. Hi Ener,

    Thank you for the heart warming post! :-)

    We may have started with some wrong assumptions about what people in the existing SL/OpenSim community want.. ahem Facebook ahem… but we do our best to listen and change to fit people’s needs.

    Hi Maria,

    We want to address some issues people still have with the Kitely Plugin, add OAR exports and do some more backend improvements before we focus on adding billing. Hopefully this won’t take us too long to do.

    We’ve been listening to the types of payment options people want and we’ll try to accommodate these requests in a way that makes sense with how our system works. I can’t make any promises yet but we have some interesting ideas we need to consider and I’ll be looking for market feedback if we decide they are viable financially.

    Hi Gaga,

    We plan to add Twitter integration soon after we roll out the billing feature. We have a long development plan but we are constantly re-arranging our short-term development schedule to accommodate the realities of having a live service and existing users to support. For example, we are currently building a solution for people who created a Kitely account using one Facebook account to connect it to a different Facebook account. This will enable people who were effected by Facebook’s recent asinine avatar purging to regain access to their Kitely accounts without needing to wait for us to support additional login options.

    Gaga and Ener, I remember my promise to give you 4000 free KC once you do join Kitely so feel free to jump in any time. You’ll be able to re-associate your Kitely accounts with non-Facebook alternatives once we start supporting them.

    Ilan Tochner

    23 May 11 at 8:36 am

  4. Twitter would be cool and allow some avatar types to use it

    for billing, i would like to see some Paypal subscription/authorization model. LL has it so taht you can authorise them to bill your PayPal (it’s actually PayPal that allows that with a default limit of USD $250 per transaction)

    i’d like something like a $25 or 50 billing authorization and that way i could have you automatically bill PayPal when I hit like $5. the new bill would be for a $25 “recharge” (this is how a toll road system here in New England works)

    you get your money right away and i can monitor expenses and if caught off guard, i am only out $25 or $50 depending on how i have payPal alert me (you could also do automatic emails saying “Your PayPal has just been billed $25″)

    and you are welcome! i do think you have a great service and are making it happen. over a year ago, Kyle from Reaction Grid (CEO) showed my subQuark a Facebook login to Unity but they have yet to make a noise about it (i blogged on it of course)

    kudos to you for making it real!

    Ener Hax

    23 May 11 at 9:44 am

  5. A “a french canadian elitist and snob”??
    Not! heh heh

    I’m so glad to see I’m not the only one that has the inate ability to confuse the heck out of myself =^..^=

    brinda Allen

    23 May 11 at 12:28 pm

  6. well put brinda! if i could get out of my own way, i’d be way further down the road!

    but then, if you and i were not like that, we probaly would not explore anything and just sit around watching American Idol (or is that Idle!) =)

    Ener Hax

    23 May 11 at 12:47 pm

  7. Hi Ener,

    Thank you for the heads-up, I wasn’t aware PayPal offered that option. It makes the type of billing solution you just described a lot more feasible for us to implement.

    FYI, following your advise I’ll be speaking live at MetaMeets about our vision (“Virtual worlds on demand – the vision and how we get there”). I hope you and the rest of the VW community will share our passion for seeing that vision come true so we can work together to make it a reality.

    Ilan Tochner

    23 May 11 at 1:56 pm

  8. Yep, “recurring” billing on PayPal can be used for any type of “subscription” billing (magazines, newsletters, memberships, etc.). If you have a paid account on SL thru PayPal, you are already using this!

    The buyer can cancel a “subscription” agreement at PayPal at any time, without going through any laborious cancellation procedures that some websites/services are famous for.

    Overview / Seller Pricing / FAQs:

    Detailed info:

  9. McDreamy knows about PayPal with OpenSim too, she can code objects to use PayPal for in-world purchases – she is a pretty sharp cookie =)

    e <3 d

    Ener Hax

    23 May 11 at 9:14 pm

  10. I understand the initial concern regarding Facebook. But I think the product Kitely is offering definitely has a place. So, I’m glad they are sticking with it.

    Micheil Merlin

    23 May 11 at 9:14 pm

  11. Thanks DreamWalker, Ener,

    I was aware of regular PayPal subscriptions not that they offered unscheduled automatic purchases without buyer interaction.

    I’ll look into what PayPal provides once we start designing the billing solution. We’ll need an API that our system can interface with.

    Ilan Tochner

    24 May 11 at 11:52 am

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