zeppelins are neat and this is one that i modded from one i built in Second Life years ago. i removed all the textures except for some default wood. the balloon part was zebra striped (from CGI Textures or get the 19kb one on flickr) but i’d like to keep freebies as texture-free as possible. i figure that’s a personal thing and in the case of this Shark Zep, i dupped and manipulated the main balloon to make a shark. it reminds me a bit of the cat bus in Totoro =)
it’s 37 prims and could easily be reduced and does not come with any scripts. get it here
in Second Life it was scripted for a driver and three passengers and it was almost pee-in-your-pants funny to fly it around. it’s so big and clunky and i scripted the engine to respond slowly. you’d constantly get stuck against buildings (the old 6 sim Enercity part of the iliveisl estate) or lose someone on a sim crossing – i do miss good (and easy) vehicle scripts . . . *sigh*
if you use it, have fun and post some pics! it’s fully yours to do with as you like =)
(Hi Ener!
Sorry to put this here, but I have some questions about SoaS that I can’t seem to find answers to (and I can’t find any way to contact you directly!? It’s plausible that I’m just totally inept), please email me!
Cheers,
~!CJ)
CiderJack
21 Jun 12 at 5:56 am
so what’s the issue you are seeing? there have been many answered all over the place (like this post might)
lol, i doubt you are totally inept, there are real conflicts and real issues that keep SoaS from running
let me know what you are seeing before we get into email support, i prefer answers online so that others can benefit =)
Ener Hax
21 Jun 12 at 9:39 am
That makes sense, I was just worried about posting off-topic on your blog… but anyway, here’s the gist:
I had about a year ago (with a previous version of SoaS on WinXP) installed phpMyAdmin along with SoaS, as per http://www.chsoftware.net/en/mowes/mowesmixer/mowesmixer.htm?step=2 and it worked as advertised. Then one day it just quit working for no obvious reason. I run SoaS and go to localhost on my browser and get the error (on Firefox):
“Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at localhost.”
(or on Chromium):
“Chromium’s connection attempt to localhost was rejected. The website
may be down or your network may not be properly configured.”
To me, this would seem to imply that Mowe’s Apache server isn’t running, however I have no problem logging in to SoaS via Imprudence, so clearly the server is running fine.
I’ve reinstalled SoaS, tried more recent versions, reinstalled phpMyAdmin, all to no avail. I’ve since even moved to Win7 & installed a fresh download of SoaS and phpMyAdmin, and yet I am still running into the same exact issue! I just watched over my partner’s shoulder as she installed phpMyAdmin onto her SoaS and it worked without a hitch, so I know it’s not something I’m doing wrong (and Mowes doesn’t seem to have any trouble finding & installing the phpMyAdmin package).
I don’t use a firewall on my PC (not even Windows firewall), relying on the modem firewall. It’s been the same modem all along so that doesn’t seem likely to be an issue. I’ve tried disabling all Firefox plugins when using Firefox, but again this had no effect.
I’ve posted this question on the Mowes forum several months ago and had no responses. I’ve asked on the OpenSim Users email list, and received no responses there either, except one suggestion from Justin to ask you.
So, have you ever run into this problem? Do you have any suggestions of something I might try? This is driving me absolutely batty!
Thanks Ener!
CiderJack
21 Jun 12 at 8:40 pm
i’m on an iPad so can’t test atm but is your issue something like
http://www.apachefriends.org/f/viewtopic.php?p=195445&sid=9c1f91e85ca713f53544d9029e4c458d
let me know, i’ll keep looking into it =)
Ener Hax
22 Jun 12 at 2:44 pm
It certainly sounds like the same issue on the surface, but gimbgimb’s error message was different than mine, and much less vague! He fixed it by clearing browser history/cookies/cache, which doesn’t fix it for me (I have FF set to clear everything after every session, and I habitually (compulsively?) clear it all (ctrl-shift-del) several times during the day)…
Ok, that thread made me think to check log files. They look fine, no errors – BUT I did notice somewhere along the line it Apache switched from listening over port 80 to port 26535. So I switched that back to 80 and started up SoaS. Everything seemed to be working fine, could log in with Imprudence just fine… I point my browser at localhost, and the server homepage loads up. Great! except…
Apache 2.2.11 is running
PHP 5.3.5 works
MySql is not running
Hmmm,very odd that Mowes reports MySql as running… and obviously it is or SoaS wouldn’t work at all. Anyway, I click the link on that page to open phpMyAdmin and get an error, can’t connect to the server.
So I change the listening port back to 26535 and restart SoaS. Point browser at localhost:26535 and get to the server homepage. Same thing: MySql is not running (even though it is). This time however when I click the link to open phpMyAdmin, I get “Welcome to phpMyAdmin” – Awesome! Oh waitaminnit…
Error: #2002 The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server’s socket is not correctly configured)
…So I’m thinking phpMyAdmin changes the listening port when it installs (security maybe?). However even though now that I can get to my server homepage, phpMyAdmin still seems broken. And why the conflict of Mowes reporting MySQL running while the server homepage reports it as not running? Ugh, this is just leading to more and more questions. Guess it’s time to back up Simona’s iars and reinstall from scratch. That’s all I can figure at this point, though honestly I have no faith as I’ve done this half a dozen times already (where’s the banging-head-against-the-wall emoticon when you need it?)…
CiderJack
23 Jun 12 at 7:15 am
port issues? well a year ago SoaS used port 9000 but since 0.7.2, it uses port 9100 – i wonder if that creates some other conflict even though that’s not the Apache port
to change that part (and i would for troubleshooting purposes) you just have to go into diva-####/bin/config-include and MyWorld.ini and change all the 9100 to 9000. i don’t know enough if that is even related but it is a change from a year ago. this change helped Apache to run even if you have Skype installed. if Skype is installed, but not open, it caused issues because it launches some stuff at start up – here’s that post:
http://iliveisl.com/reduce-sim-on-a-stick-conflicts-with-other-installed-programs/
now what about IIS on your machine?
http://iliveisl.com/apache-is-not-running-for-sim-on-a-stick/
Apache does not need to be running for SoaS to work, only MySQL does (addressing something you mentioned earlier). the easiest way to test for Apache is to launch the Wifi Admin Panel, if it launches, then Apache is running
i’m not very techie but i’d love to see this resolved and let me ask what you want to do with phpMyAdmin? is it to do like account maintenance and such?
i ask because that might make an interesting post and a post would get more eyes looking at this issue and someone like Breen might have some ideas
Ener Hax
23 Jun 12 at 10:38 am
Thanks for the suggestions Ener, I come bearing glad tidings!
Anyway, the wifi module worked just fine, so Apache was running. Tried changing the .ini file port settings (all 21 of them) from 9100 to 9000 and it didn’t solve the problem, in fact made things worse as I could still connect to the server homepage, but now couldn’t even get the error page from phpMyAdmin. I personally wouldn’t touch Skype with a 10-foot modem, so I didn’t concern myself with that bit (may I recommend TorChat?) ;)
Couldn’t get to the link on Breen’s page, and I wasn’t too keen on playing the IIS game with MS anyway.
By this time I figured that since I was already prepared to re-install SoaS for the nth time, I may as well try phpMyAdmin with SoaS 0.7.3.1 – and am happy to report a resounding SUCCESS! So at this point I think it will be easier just to reconfigure 7.3.1 to my preferences rather than keep banging away at this issue with 7.3.0… Sorry not much fodder for a post to be had from this solution though! ;)
In regards to what I needed phpMyAdmin for is mostly just to change Simona Stick’s name so that all permissions, ownership, etc. across the board would default to the new name instead. If phpMyAdmin had been working properly it would have been the obviously simplest solution! This quit working for me just as the [save oar -profile] switch was implemented in OpenSim so right now everything we have available is created by either Simona Stick, Mr. OpenSim or ‘unknown’ :P
Alright, now I have no excuse to hold me back! Ok back to work… mañana… ;)
Thanks again for the help Ener! I should have just done this from the beginning I suppose, but I was hoping for a simple fix on what I have, rather than having to start (almost) all over. But after this much time & effort, and not really any closer to a solution, this will work just peaches afaic!
CiderJack
23 Jun 12 at 11:54 pm
excellent! i wonder what the heck is the difference in 0.7.3 and 0.7.3.1? 0.7.3.1 does not have the autostart batch file but i can’t imagine that changed anything for PHP usage
so is it hard to use phpMyAdmin? do you think a regu;ar user (like me) could figure it out?
i get lots of people wanting to change the default avatar and if it’s a failrly simple thing, iyt might be nice to offer (i have a feeling that it’s kind of techy though)
i am so glad you have it working and there are some good fixes in 0.7.3.1 =)
Ener Hax
24 Jun 12 at 9:18 am
oh snap, i pasted the same URL twice! one was all about IIS, but thankfully it did not apply to you, sorry about that!
http://iliveisl.com/apache-is-not-running-for-sim-on-a-stick/
Ener Hax
24 Jun 12 at 9:18 am
phpMyAdmin is actually really straight forward to use. I only have a barely-better-than-rough understanding of how to use it or databases in general, but phpMyAdmin is a great GUI visualization and makes it pretty simple. Probably doesn’t hurt that I live with someone who has a Ph.D. in Database Management. ;) I expect someone with your mad skillz would have no trouble getting a grip on it. Just don’t get sloppy because one slip could potentially destroy the whole world(!). If you run it on a public server (like with Enclave Harbor), definitely set a password (it will remind you if you forget)!
What’s really going to bake your noodle though, I followed the instructions on your last link (apache-is-not-running-for-sim-on-a-stick) just to check – and even though Apache is running (and the wifi module & phpMyAdmin both working), the IIS had been turned off all this time! So I left it off (no point in burdening the system running unnecessary services), because all these things continue to work just fine without it…
CiderJack
25 Jun 12 at 3:40 am